Dr. Michele McArdle Stephens joined Steven to discuss her book *In the Lands of Fire and Sun: Resistance and Accommodation in the Huichol Sierra, 1723–1930*. Link to her book: https://www.nebraskapress.unl.edu/nebraska/9780803288584/ Link to Intro / Outro: Huichol Musical - https://youtu.be/ABL1xc_oEtE